Armin Ronacher


June 25th, 2016

1 hr 20 secs

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About this Episode


Armin Ronacher is a prolific contributor to the Python software ecosystem, creating such widely used projects as Flask and Jinja2. This week we got the opportunity to talk to him about how he got his start with Python and what has inspired him to create the various tools that have made our lives easier. We also discussed his experiences working in Rust and how it can interface with Python.

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  • Your hosts as usual are Tobias Macey and Chris Patti
  • Today we’re interviewing Armin Ronacher about his contributions to the Python community.

Interview with Armin Ronacher

  • Introductions
  • How did you get introduced to Python? – Chris
  • What was the first open source project that you created in Python? – Tobias
  • What is your view of the responsibility for open source project maintainers and how do you manage a smooth handoff for projects that you no longer wish to be involved in? – Tobias
  • You have created a large number of successful open source libraries and tools during your career. What are some of the projects that may be less well known that you think people might find interesting? – Tobias (e.g. logbook)
  • I notice that you recently worked on the pipsi project. Please tell us about it! – Chris
  • Following on from the last question, where would you like to see the Python packaging infrastructure go in the future? – Chris
  • You have had some strong opinions of Python 2 vs Python 3. How has your position on that subject changed over time? – Tobias
  • Let’s talk about Lektor – what differentiates it from the pack, and what keeps you coming back to CMS projects? – Chris
  • How has your blogging contributed to the work that you do and the success you have achieved? – Tobias
  • Lately you have been doing a fair amount of work with Rust. What was your reasoning for learning that language and how has it influenced your work with Python? – Tobias
  • In addition to the code you have written, you also helped to form the Pocoo organization. Can you explain what Pocoo is and what it does? What has inspired the rebranding to the Pallets project? – Tobias

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